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JMax



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 13 2007,23:59   

on Monday...  Currently planning on printing out Dr. Shallit's proposed testimony and handing them out.  Any good quotes I can use?

btw his lecture is entitled “Why Atheism is no Longer Intellectually Fulfilling: The Challenge of Intelligent Design to Unintelligent Evolution.”

  
Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,00:03   

I've already sent my suggestions to Dan.

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skeptic



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,00:04   

not to get too personal but what school would invite him?

  
JMax



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,00:10   

I attend OU (University of Oklahoma) and the school didnt invite him.  He is being sponsored by a student group Pursuit ministries who is backed by Trinity Baptist church here in Norman.  Somehow they came up with $10k to invite him.


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skeptic



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,00:33   

whoa, 10k.  I wonder how much his honorarium is?  This guy might be much smarter than you all give him credit for, lol.

  
Doc Bill



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,01:20   

Hey, J, I'd speak in tongues and do the chicken thing for $5k.

Whom do I contact?

  
Occam's Toothbrush



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,04:02   

Quote (JMax @ Sep. 14 2007,00:59)
his lecture is entitled “Why Atheism is no Longer Intellectually Fulfilling: The Challenge of Intelligent Design to Unintelligent Evolution.”

Thanks for demonstrating once again the total lack of connection between ID and religious apologetics, Dr Dr Dr Dr Dumbass.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,07:56   

Jmax - No need to re-invent the wheel - Go to this website and read the original post and the comments.

You will be enlightned - in a real way, not a religious- pseudo-way.  One of your classmates will be there too.

https://www.blogger.com/comment....5354600

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
BWE



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,10:17   

put a whoopee cushion in his chair and when he sits down, hold up a picture of judge jones.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,10:30   

Tell him you joined his International Society for Design and since it's as dead as a doornail you want your money back.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,10:32   

Quote (JMax @ Sep. 14 2007,00:59)
on Monday...  Currently planning on printing out Dr. Shallit's proposed testimony and handing them out.  Any good quotes I can use?

btw his lecture is entitled “Why Atheism is no Longer Intellectually Fulfilling: The Challenge of Intelligent Design to Unintelligent Evolution.”

Another thing you could distribute would be the excellent essay (linked by somebody at ERV's blog) How Not to Detect Design

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Dembski’s book is an attempt to clarify these ground rules. He proposes a procedure for
detecting design and discusses how it applies to a number of mundane and nontheological
examples, which more or less resemble Paley’s watch. Although the book takes no stand on
whether creationism is more or less plausible than evolutionary theory, Dembski’s epistemology
can be evaluated without knowing how he thinks it bears on this highly charged topic. In what
follows, we will show that Dembski’s account of design inference is deeply flawed. Sometimes he
is too hard on hypotheses of intelligent design; at other times he is too lenient. Neither
creationists nor evolutionists nor people who are trying to detect design in nontheological
contexts should adopt Dembski’s framework.


http://philosophy.wisc.edu/sober/dembski.pdf

   
k.e



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,10:41   

Quote (skeptic @ Sep. 14 2007,08:33)
whoa, 10k.  I wonder how much his honorarium is?  This guy might be much smarter than you all give him credit for, lol.

That's write skepdick.

Dembski is a brilliant apologist for Apollo.

The sheep herder and all round good guy with the good looks that morphed into some sort of Jewish messiah. Convenient mythology and all that.

Anyway U R write Dembski is vrry smrat and Monet sticks to his fingers like Mydas. That's why when Voltaire said “ I only made one prayer to my enemies, that all my gods would be stupid, and my prayers were answered. “

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skeptic



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,11:13   

say what you want but that's 10k that you and I don't have.  Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with a thing he says but I don't think I'd call him stupid.  Deluded, fanatical, or dreamer but not stupid.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,11:20   

Quote (skeptic @ Sep. 14 2007,11:13)
say what you want but that's 10k that you and I don't have.  Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with a thing he says but I don't think I'd call him stupid.  Deluded, fanatical, or dreamer but not stupid.

Stupid is as stupid does, my momma used to say.

And I don't see how Dembski can do stupid any better than his most recent trick.  

And that's all I'm going to say about that.

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Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,11:46   

Oklahoma? I think this calls for a song!

Artist: Rodgers and Hammerstein
Song: It's A Scandal! It's A Outrage! (from Oklahoma!;)

[ALI THE PEDDLERMAN]
Trapped! Tricked! Hoodblinked! Hambushed!
[MEN] Friend, what's on your mind?
Why do you walk around and around?
With your hands folded behind?
And your chin scraping the ground?
[ALI] Twenty minutes ago, I am free, like a breeze.
Free like a bird in the woodland wild.
Free like a gypsy, free like a child.
I am unattacked.
Twenty minutes ago, I could do what I please.
Flick my boogers on Baylor’s rug.
Drunk with donuts, thunk with a jug.
I was a happy man.

I am peddlin’ my own crapola like I oughta.
Ain't meaning any facts to anyone.
I'm talking to a certain “evidence gotta”-
Then I see ID disintegrashun!!

[MEN]It's getting so you can't have any chaw to chew.
Every theory has peers with reviews.
It's a scandal.
It's an outrage.
How crackpottery gets trashed today.

[MEN]It's a scandal.
It's an outrage.
It's a problem we must solve.
We gotta start a revolution!

[WOMEN]All right, boys. Evolve! :D

And I don’t care how much $$$ someone makes. Creationism is for little old ladies. Why grown men want to clap their hands for Tinkerbell with the bluestockings’ sewing circle is beyond me. I can’t keep up the crush jokes on Dembski anymore. I must say, this whole thing strikes me as effeminate and it’s a real turn-off. Sissy is as sissy does.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: Sep. 14 2007,12:36   

Quote (Kristine @ Sep. 14 2007,11:46)
Oklahoma? I think this calls for a song!

Artist: Rodgers and Hammerstein
Song: It's A Scandal! It's A Outrage! (from Oklahoma!)

[ALI THE PEDDLERMAN]
Trapped! Tricked! Hoodblinked! Hambushed!
[MEN] Friend, what's on your mind?
Why do you walk around and around?
With your hands folded behind?
And your chin scraping the ground?
[ALI] Twenty minutes ago, I am free, like a breeze.
Free like a bird in the woodland wild.
Free like a gypsy, free like a child.
I am unattacked.
Twenty minutes ago, I could do what I please.
Flick my boogers on Baylor’s rug.
Drunk with donuts, thunk with a jug.
I was a happy man.

I am peddlin’ my own crapola like I oughta.
Ain't meaning any facts to anyone.
I'm talking to a certain “evidence gotta”-
Then I see ID disintegrashun!!

[MEN]It's getting so you can't have any chaw to chew.
Every theory has peers with reviews.
It's a scandal.
It's an outrage.
How crackpottery gets trashed today.

[MEN]It's a scandal.
It's an outrage.
It's a problem we must solve.
We gotta start a revolution!

[WOMEN]All right, boys. Evolve! :D

And I don’t care how much $$$ someone makes. Creationism is for little old ladies. Why grown men want to clap their hands for Tinkerbell with the bluestockings’ sewing circle is beyond me. I can’t keep up the crush jokes on Dembski anymore. I must say, this whole thing strikes me as effeminate and it’s a real turn-off. Sissy is as sissy does.

Kristine...and All The Chorus:

Oh….Oklahoma, where the crap comes tumbling down the plain
And Dembski’s words, will all be turds
While the Elders pay to suck his brain
Oh…Oklahoma

or maybe from The Music Man:

Friends!  You got Trouble.
Right in Oklahoma City.
And that starts with T, and that rhymes with D
That means Design, and You Got Trouble!

I said You got Trouble.
They want you saved, so you get someone crazed
It's Dembski, with a D, and that rhymes with T,
and that stands for Trouble!

Right in Oklamhoma City!
Get rid of the clown, run him out of town,
and you clear that Trouble right from Oklahoma City.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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