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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,14:45   

Brainstorms is no longer thriving. And ISCID cancelled their conferences and their journal has been defunct for years. Overwhelming Evidence is pathetic, only Denyse (re)posts there. Traffic's down at UD. YoungCosmos Discussion Forum is deserted.

This is a problem for us. My entertainment needs depend on a lot of poorly educated, arrogant, armchair creationists thinking up pseudoscience. But the supply seems to be dwindling. Can this be? Or am I missing several sites with big ID activity? Anyone have suggestions on where to look? Go to the ID blogs and follow the links and see where they lead. I'll sticky this just for a few days and encourage people to look for new ID hotspots and tell us about them.

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,14:52   

I thought ARN had a discussion forum but when I went there:

http://www.arn.org/boards/

I get a 404.

   
Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,14:54   

Well, if you think you're tough enough, the 'best' of the whirling black center of the tard universe, from which no light can escape, is gathered right here.

Ooh, just spotted this from ticking-time-bomb VenomFangX:

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Average Rating: 4.57

Why should God heal amputees? He's the one who allowed you to lose your arm in the first place!
VenomFangX, YouTube [Comments (48)] [2008-May-25]


What's that? You want sth specifically about evolution? Well, there is THIS:

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If evolution were real, that would mean God was a liar.

So, if God were a liar, there would be NOTHING. No earth, no stars, no us, no nothing.
ImaSaved1, http://www.teens-4-christ.org/ [Comments (24)] [2008-May-25]


Okay, I think I have to go lie down now.

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Alan Fox



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,15:14   

Quote (stevestory @ May 25 2008,09:52)
I thought ARN had a discussion forum but when I went there:

http://www.arn.org/boards/

I get a 404.

You had a lucky escape! Try reading anything by fundamentalist flooring contractor, Frank Cox

ETA: not that I mean to imply that there is anything fundamentally wrong with flooring contractors in general.

  
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,15:24   

Ah! Thanks Alan, I see. ARN just moved the location of their board. It appears to have some activity

http://www.arn.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=0

   
stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,15:26   

I saw that a few posts had been updated today but then I saw this:

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Username Status Title Last Activity Location


1 Anonymous User(s).
Username Last Activity Location
Anonymous Sun May 25 2008 02:21 PM Checking who's online


I'm the only person there right now.

   
midwifetoad



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,15:49   

Dover killed the ID movement. It's thrashing around pretty violently, but its head has been cut off.

No one but Behe testified under oath, and he hurt the cause. Everyone else -- Dembski et al. -- is on record as a creationist. They will never be allowed to testify under oath by any competent attorney.

Johnson has acknowledged that there is no theory of ID. Dembski is unwilling to differentiate between the numbers six thousand and four billion.

Expelled has set up a circular firing squad. Money lost, no positive impact for ID, all the academic freedom bills died, Catholics and Methodists support evolution. New evidence supporting common descent coming by the bucketful. It's got to be demoralizing.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 25 2008,16:07   

I think the fundies have just given up on the whole "shh.  Pretend it's Science" thing and gone back to being regular old Creationists for the most part.

When they can't even get a federal judge who is "a good old boy" "appointed by GW hisself" to buy the bullshit by spraying it with Fabreeze and labeling it Rosa carolina, I guess there's really not much point.

So they moved on to "Teach the Controversy!", which was D.O.A., and are now trying their hand at the "Academic Freedom!  Scientists r teh mean to uz!"  It'll make a few inroads before they either get their ass handed to them again or they establish a theocracy, but that whole "Pretend it's Science" thing isn't worth their time anymore, and of course actually doing Science never was.

Pretending to scientific legitimacy as a means to the ultimate end was weighed and found wanting.  I expect all the IDCH trappings to wither and die, dusty and forgotten.

Force is really their only shot at success if this "Academic Freedom" crap goes the way of the IDCH.  I don't put that past them, their track record speaks for itself.

/pessimism

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: May 26 2008,07:07   

Creationism, like herpes, never really goes away, it just flares up from time to time.

In fact the similarities with herpes don't just end there....but I'll save that for another day.

Read Ron Numbers' "The Creationists". Judging by the timelines mentioned in that book, we should be due another full on flare up in 8 to 15 years or so. The old generation are dying off defeated, the new young bucks are up and coming, yet to fully test their rehashed creationist mettle against reality.

Wesley is better placed to answer this than I, but IIRC the "ID flare up" started going public in earnest about 1997 or so. It had a couple of fairly silent years, reached a peak of hysterics around Dover and has now faded back into relative obscurity. The death throws of "Teetch Teh Notroversy*" and "A-cad-endemic FweeDumb" are the last articles of noise and fury, signifying nothing. They are a little more in tune with the quasi-relativist zeitgeist, and as such will crop up from time to time, but as dear old Lenny Flank is fond of saying (paraphrase perhaps): ID is dead. Finished. Kaput. It is no more. It has gone to meet Goerge McReady Price. It has run up the curtains to join the Choir Invisibule. It is an ex-creationist movement.

Will we see "All New Recycled ID Arguments" In Creationism: The Next Generation? Of course. We'll be hip deep in Fracterial Blagella and Ooooh Isn't It Complex for decades and centuries to come. We still hear about moon dust and radiation, why do you think anything new is going to come out of ID or its descendants? But of course you don't, you're too wise for that. What the next creationist flare up will be I can't tell, I reckon it will be yet more "information theory" based quasi-philosophy. Even listening to credible, brilliant, intelligent, incredible erudite and generally sensible non-creationist (traditional sense) theists like John Polkinghorne you can see the kernels of these credulous "information/complexity" arguments being used. As well as the ever retreating nonsensical appeals to prejudice made until one arrives at "well it's a choice between god and the multiverse" or some such drivel.

Personally Steve, I wouldn't worry. Creationism is not going away, it never will. The Boltzmann-like distribution of human qualities and abilities guarantees it. And of course, there's always Talk Origins and Alt Atheism of you want real frothers. Usenet remains the abode of some of the most perpetually bewildered individuals on the planet. McNameless still posts at TO if I'm not mistaken.....

Louis

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Cedric Katesby



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(Permalink) Posted: May 26 2008,08:51   

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...and encourage people to look for new ID hotspots and tell us about them.


(From the shadows of a dark alley)
Psst!
Over here.
Looking for the good stuff, my friend?
Tard? †The big "T"?

Well, the supply has been a little low of late but I can maybe offer you a few sites to slum at.

They're not "offical" ID sites but...some choice pieces can be found there with the right faux-innocent comment or two.

http://www.twoorthree.net/

(Run by a YEC who claims to be a real, super dooper scientist.)

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http://christiannews.co.nz/

This one has the irresistable sub-title of "Sponsored by the Elusive Brethren & Right Wing American Fundamentalists".

(No, I'm not kidding)

Run by a YEC who is so very shy about exactly how old the Earth is. †He posts about ID all the time.
Big fan of Galapogos Finch apparently.
Be warned: He erratically deletes messages when in a bad mood. †Sockpuppetry well advised!
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http://www.idintheuk.blogspot.com/

This one is more openly ID centred.
I think it's run by a pair of medical doctors.
The last few commentors have suggested that the site is about ready to drop the ID cheerleading gig since the UK doesn't buy into the Discovery Institute crap much at all. †No censorship to report.
Blunt and forthright comments seem to be tolerated.

  
BopDiddy



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(Permalink) Posted: May 26 2008,10:37   

Quote (stevestory @ May 25 2008,14:45)
[ ... ] My entertainment needs depend on a lot of poorly educated, arrogant, armchair creationists thinking up pseudoscience. But the supply seems to be dwindling. Can this be? Or am I missing several sites with big ID activity? Anyone have suggestions on where to look? [ ... ]

I think "Expelled" was the dying gasp of creationism trying to appear as legit science to the legit scientists and educated segments.  As was said (very well) earlier on there's trashing but the head's been cut off, now we just wait for the slow twitches.

Shamefully, an astonishing number of people still believe true creationism, so the underlying stupid isn't going away.  Regardless I think it'll be awhile before the true scientific poseurs return in significant force for our entertainment.

So it seems we may have to switch from heroin to methadone to avoid the DTs.  

Which compromise to make?  Follow the unapologetic twits like Hamm and Hovind?  Move to other pseudoscience denier arenas where things are less directly reflective of mass religious buffoonery, or are murky enough for tards to hide their tracks (HIV denial, climate change denial)?

I'm thinking I might check out the big blue room and make some RL friends, I hear from the blogosphere it's not as scary as it sounds.

  
Erasmus, FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 26 2008,16:14   

steve as you probably know already I find a great deal of enjoyment from these guys


Sweet Sweet Tard

Sometimes it is the regular old brown frownie, sometimes it is the shit that killed baby elvis and has more crystal than jay-z.  i have been avoiding it lately simply because my tard addiction, mediated through WMB and WOW, was severely inhibiting my productivity.  god there is some sweet sweet dark dank dreamy deep maroon velvet lining of stupidity in that mushroom cloud.  i couldn't recommend it more highly.

ps some of those tards are well read and the level of discourse is often a great improvement over UD.  not that this is much to brag about.  but it is true.

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guthrie



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,04:31   

Yes, the ID in the UK site is run by a stupid YEC.  I say  stupid because he cleaves to the standard YEC stuff, except that like our dear departed william wallace he uses lots of fancy language.  Oh, and he actually appears to try to and learn some biology before he posts.  Which then means people have to spend weeks explaining why he is wrong since he doesn't know enough to understand why.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,08:12   

Perhaps the tent is becoming even bigger, encompassing any and all forms of denialism and kookiness.

If UD is anything to go by, there are still rich denialism fields to harvest, just not strictly limited to creationism.

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Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,08:43   

Quote (dnmlthr @ May 27 2008,09:12)
Perhaps the tent is becoming even bigger, encompassing any and all forms of denialism and kookiness.

If UD is anything to go by, there are still rich denialism fields to harvest, just not strictly limited to creationism.

Heh.

From that page, there appears to be a particular obsession...

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Most viewed pages

  1. Homosexuality? [3,108,892]
  2. Main Page? [2,730,188]
  3. Wikipedia? [405,946]
  4. Homosexual Agenda? [333,970]
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  6. Ex-homosexuals? [318,279]
  7. Homosexuality and choice? [312,528]
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  9. Examples of Bias in Wikipedia? [300,016]
 10. Theory of Evolution? [294,040]


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Amadan



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,10:36   

Thanks for the links to the fresh meat.

I have to say, I've gone off UD ever since it lost its sense of ambition. At least the YECs are still in militant evangelical mode. UD is like a knitting circle where everyone is waiting to see who'll be next to drop off.

As regards the future of this gibberish, one option they seem to have kept on the back burner is the 3rd world. Just think - weak education policies, strong religious cultures, declining Catholic influence. At the moment, fundagelicals in S. America (and to a lesser extent in sub-saharan Africa) tend to operate in anti-establishment mode, but it wouldn't surprise me if they tried to wedge a few of their own into the power structure. It would make for a hell of a base, and would soak up support from the megachurches in the Heartland.

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PTET



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,11:38   

Quote (BopDiddy @ May 26 2008,10:37)
...I think "Expelled" was the dying gasp of creationism trying to appear as legit science to the legit scientists and educated segments. †As was said (very well) earlier on there's trashing but the head's been cut off, now we just wait for the slow twitches.

Shamefully, an astonishing number of people still believe true creationism, so the underlying stupid isn't going away. †Regardless I think it'll be awhile before the true scientific poseurs return in significant force for our entertainment...

No matter how sciencey they pretend to be, the tards on UD tend to share a secret desire... † † †  
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PannenbergOmega

I think it would be awesome if you guys proved it was a young or younger universe than what the standard dating proposes.

The media in the US has got to be a big part of this. From what I can see from here across the pond, TV & newspapers in the States seem to regularly give these bozos "equal time" in science discussions. In Europe (the UK anyway), the IDiots hardly get the chance to see the light of day. Sure, plenty of people in Europe "don't believe" in evolution.. But I think that's a soft belief. They don't pretend to know anything about it. In the States it seems loads of people have no problem pretending to know, scientifically like, why Darwinism "can't be true"...

I don't suppose anyone would like to give me a research grant so I can come over and poke at the tard first-hand?

;)

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,11:52   

Quote (PTET @ May 27 2008,09:38)
I don't suppose anyone would like to give me a research grant so I can come over and poke at the tard first-hand?

Sorry, it's only fair you should pay for your own vacations. :angry:

On the other hand, the dollar's tanking, so it should be pretty cheap.

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melatonin



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,12:04   

If you want a veritable mine of craziness, covering all kinds of science denialism (and a good serving of ID creobotulism), abovetopsecret.com could be an option for the more masochistic.

You even get 9-11 troofers, NWO paranoia, and the whole woo-woo aisle for free.

ABE: clarity

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,12:36   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 25 2008,14:07)
/pessimism

Optimism!

History of creationism in public education:

1.  Teach creationism only.  Win case against John Scopes.  Lose PR battle.
2.  Creationism-only ruled unconstitutional.
3.  Rebrand biblical creationism as "creation science".  Try to get equal time in schools.  Fail.
4.  Rebrand rebranded biblical creationism as "intelligent design".  Try to get "textbooks" into schools.  Fail.
5.  Rebrand rebranded rebranded biblical creationism as "teach the controversy".  Try to get a mention in schools.  Fail.
6.  Rebrand rebranded rebranded rebranded biblical creationism as "academic freedom".  Make a film.  Only fundies see it.  Try to get something - anything - through state or local legislatures.  Fail.

Does anyone else see a trend here?



Edited by Lou FCD on May 27 2008,15:43

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,12:40   

Quote (JohnW @ May 27 2008,18:36)
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 25 2008,14:07)
/pessimism

Optimism!

History of creationism in public education:

1. †Teach creationism only. †Win case against John Scopes. †Lose PR battle.
2. †Creationism-only ruled unconstitutional.
3. †Rebrand biblical creationism as "creation science". †Try to get equal time in schools. †Fail.
4. †Rebrand rebranded biblical creationism as "intelligent design". †Try to get "textbooks" into schools. †Fail.
5. †Rebrand rebranded rebranded biblical creationism as "teach the controversy". †Try to get a mention in schools. †Fail.
6. †Rebrand rebranded rebranded rebranded biblical creationism as "academic freedom". †Make a film. †Only fundies see it. †Try to get something - anything - through state or local legislatures. †Fail.

Does anyone else see a trend here?

Yeah Teh Darwinismus is Due for Teh Waterloooooo!

Oh, wait.....

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,13:46   

Quote (JohnW @ May 27 2008,12:36)
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 25 2008,14:07)
/pessimism

Optimism!

History of creationism in public education:

1. †Teach creationism only. †Win case against John Scopes. †Lose PR battle.
2. †Creationism-only ruled unconstitutional.
3. †Rebrand biblical creationism as "creation science". †Try to get equal time in schools. †Fail.
4. †Rebrand rebranded biblical creationism as "intelligent design". †Try to get "textbooks" into schools. †Fail.
5. †Rebrand rebranded rebranded biblical creationism as "teach the controversy". †Try to get a mention in schools. †Fail.
6. †Rebrand rebranded rebranded rebranded biblical creationism as "academic freedom". †Make a film. †Only fundies see it. †Try to get something - anything - through state or local legislatures. †Fail.

Does anyone else see a trend here?

Does this have PotW written all over it?
Let's go back to Lou, in the studio....

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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,14:08   

Quote (Lou FCD @ May 27 2008,07:43)
[...]

From that page, there appears to be a particular obsession...

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Most viewed pages

  1. Homosexuality? [3,108,892]
  2. Main Page? [2,730,188]
  3. Wikipedia? [405,946]
  4. Homosexual Agenda? [333,970]
  5. Arguments Against Homosexuality? [333,460]
  6. Ex-homosexuals? [318,279]
  7. Homosexuality and choice? [312,528]
  8. Federal Bureau of Investigation? [300,940]
  9. Examples of Bias in Wikipedia? [300,016]
 10. Theory of Evolution? [294,040]

Delusions of gender?

  
Assassinator



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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,14:44   

Can all the links above even be called "action"? Really, it's all just the same crap, boring monotous chatter from odd people. Not much fun, where is the creativity in the anti-evo camps, that would spice things up.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 27 2008,15:17   

Quote (Richardthughes @ May 27 2008,14:46)
Quote (JohnW @ May 27 2008,12:36)
 
Quote (Lou FCD @ May 25 2008,14:07)
/pessimism

Optimism!

History of creationism in public education:

1.  Teach creationism only.  Win case against John Scopes.  Lose PR battle.
2.  Creationism-only ruled unconstitutional.
3.  Rebrand biblical creationism as "creation science".  Try to get equal time in schools.  Fail.
4.  Rebrand rebranded biblical creationism as "intelligent design".  Try to get "textbooks" into schools.  Fail.
5.  Rebrand rebranded rebranded biblical creationism as "teach the controversy".  Try to get a mention in schools.  Fail.
6.  Rebrand rebranded rebranded rebranded biblical creationism as "academic freedom".  Make a film.  Only fundies see it.  Try to get something - anything - through state or local legislatures.  Fail.

Does anyone else see a trend here?

Does this have PotW written all over it?
Let's go back to Lou, in the studio....

Why yes it does!  Thanks Rich.  We've been receiving eyewitness reports of breathtaking inanity breaking out all over the country, but the areas hardest hit seem to be in the deep south, where education and enlightenment are widely seen as elitist conspiracies of attacks from the intelligent and educated segment of society.

Thus far, small tactical teams of scientists, educators, and volunteers have been able to rebuff all attempts at burning the Constitution in favor of dictatorial theocracy, but a redoubling of efforts to repeal the enlightenment may be gaining traction in Texas, where Sunday School teacher Don McLeroy has seen some success in pissing on years of hard work by Language Arts experts.  His replacement of their excellent standards, put thoughtfully together over the course of two and a half years, with intellectually vacuous meanderings written in crayon an hour before they were strong-armed into place is seen as a foreshadowing of things to come at the impending Science standards meeting.

With a board that's solidly stacked with creationist Luddites from the mid fourteenth century, it will be a difficult row to hoe for those whose sanity has not completely left them.  For more on that story, let's go to biologist PZ Meyers, who has been covering the spread of insanity in Texas from his blog, Pharyngula.

********

Thank you Dr. Myers.

Stay tuned to channel WAtBC and our sister station WAEPT for further developments as they happen.

(We'd also like to take a moment to promote our favorite soft-core porn station, WUDoJ, for those of our listeners who prefer a little smut with their news.)

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Louis



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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,02:40   

Why does the subtitle of this thread make me think that there may be a good market for spam emails that run roughly:

"Hot ID Action! Be a REAL man, enlarge your contribution to the notroversy with Via-id-gra!"

Louis

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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,08:22   

Quote (Louis @ May 28 2008,10:40)
Why does the subtitle of this thread make me think that there may be a good market for spam emails that run roughly:

"Hot ID Action! Be a REAL man, enlarge your contribution to the notroversy with Via-id-gra!"

Louis

Can I suggest you be more even handed in your posts?

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(Permalink) Posted: May 28 2008,19:57   

I suppose you could look at the Biologic Institute, a place that just updated its website! (*oooooohh, website*).

It has some choice nonsense in its press release thingie.

  
ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2008,12:45   

Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2008,13:18   

Quote (ERV @ May 30 2008,12:45)
Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

Are you sure it's for the Tard???

or could it be this hawt sexy brain-dead pastor?



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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2008,13:46   

Quote (ERV @ May 30 2008,12:45)
Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

That's what ID would look like in 5 years if it went unchecked...

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ERV



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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2008,15:21   

Quote (J-Dog @ May 30 2008,13:18)
Quote (ERV @ May 30 2008,12:45)
Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

Are you sure it's for the Tard???

or could it be this hawt sexy brain-dead pastor?


I know.  Its like "Why are all these men getting their pictures taken in front of my 3rd grade class pic backdrop?"

Where do you even GET a pic like that after the 11th grade???

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 30 2008,16:53   

Quote (ERV @ May 30 2008,12:45)
Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

I followed the link to see where it would take me and I wound up with Paul Davies. Now, Paul Davies may be a great scientist, but IMHO, he is a poor philospher. Otherwise, he would not have had to make a statement like †"To set the record straight, I am a fierce opponent of so-called "Intelligent Design", ..."

I am afraid his philosophising makes for 'gefundenes fressen' for creationists.

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Wild Bob



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2008,15:57   

Evolution Is Dead!

Not very active, but I'll bet there's some TARD in them there hills. Happy hunting, y'all.

  
Lou FCD



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2008,17:34   

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Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

Are you sure it's for the Tard???

or could it be this hawt sexy brain-dead pastor?


I know.  Its like "Why are all these men getting their pictures taken in front of my 3rd grade class pic backdrop?"

Where do you even GET a pic like that after the 11th grade???

Sears, I think.

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J-Dog



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(Permalink) Posted: June 17 2008,18:48   

Quote (Lou FCD @ June 17 2008,17:34)
Quote (ERV @ May 30 2008,16:21)
Quote (J-Dog @ May 30 2008,13:18)
 
Quote (ERV @ May 30 2008,12:45)
Im loving this TARDmine:
Reason to Believe blag

Are you sure it's for the Tard???

or could it be this hawt sexy brain-dead pastor?


I know. †Its like "Why are all these men getting their pictures taken in front of my 3rd grade class pic backdrop?"

Where do you even GET a pic like that after the 11th grade???

Sears, I think.

I'm afraid to ask what they cropped out, but I'm thinking that smile indicates a Big Liviticus No-No, according to St. Haggard, May He Rest In Peace.

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Come on Tough Guy, do the little dance of ID impotence you do so well. - Louis to Joe G 2/10

Gullibility is not a virtue - Quidam on Dembski's belief in the Bible Code Faith Healers & ID 7/08

UD is an Unnatural Douchemagnet. - richardthughes 7/11

  
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