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|Topic: CTMU: Reality Principle (33 of 33), Read 6 times |
Conf: Reality Theory
From: Chris Langan
Date: Friday, December 20, 2002 07:51 PM
>Would someone tell me, please, how to
>find the ARN debate? Is it open to the
>Thanks in advance,
Hi, Paul. My advice would be "don't bother". Genie and I are pretty much through with the place (ARN) unless we receive a full apology for the abuse we've suffered there over the last 6 weeks, not only from an army of vicious, pea-brained, officially-shielded trolls euphemistically called "ID critics", but also from the "management" (if one can call it that, given the jungle-like atmosphere). Whatever they're doing over there at ARN, it seems to have very little to do with substantively discussing the issues.
Genie and I were two of the only ARN posters who had the guts to use our real names - so did a few of those who joined us there from this board - and we only started posting there in self-defense because I was being viciously slurred behind my back. Unfortunately, we rapidly learned that the place is a superconducting troll magnet that deceptively calls itself an "ID-friendly forum" while appointing anonymous, ID-hating trolls as "moderators" for the sake of "fairness" and a "balanced view". To capture the feeling, envision a half-dozen pro-ID posters fighting for their lives on one side of a scale, dozens of closed-minded, dimwitted anti-ID atheists and materialists piled up in layers on the other side of the scale, and the "management" holding both thumbs on the anti-ID side of the scale just to make sure that the trolls feel comfortable and appreciated even when hurling offal like petulant monkeys (a frequent occurrence). Calling such a situation "balanced" is a bit like saying that Osama bin Laden deserves the Nobel Peace Prize...and make no mistake, there are a few participants over there at ARN who would probably say exactly that!
Anyway, insofar as the price for submitting one constructive pro-ID (or for that matter pro-CTMU) post at ARN is up to ten or twenty snide retorts and a shrug of the shoulders from the "ID-friendly management", you'd have to be a masochist to bother. Don't get me wrong - there are a few nice people at ARN, including a single ID-friendly moderator who now happens to be gone for the holidays (and whose wrists often seem to be bound even when he's there). But they often can't get a word in edgewise, and the vast majority of other participants can be more or less aptly described as atheist-materialist pond scum. Unfortunately, this seems to include a few so-called "theists" who turn on other theists with an eagerness to rival that of the atheists themselves.
Genie and I are very glad to be out.
(12/20/02 3:40:30 pm)
I got confirmation from Eddie in administration that CML and genie were also suspended, so I accept that as fair. MG was involved, but his posts weren't as down and dirty as ours were, so I don't mind that much that he was 'spared'. My real relief is to discover that it was not some behind the scenes political armtwisting on Langan's part. Maybe the realm of ineffable anonymity is starting to get its s--t back together.