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MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,08:05   

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007....olution


Brownback, Tancredo and Huckabee

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phonon



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,09:27   

You totally beat me to it. I was coming over here to post that video.

Isn't it freaking ridiculous?

I am glad the question was worded in such a straightforward manner. Yes/No No room for BS.

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MidnightVoice



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,09:53   

Quote (phonon @ May 04 2007,09:27)
Isn't it freaking ridiculous?

Absolutely and totally.  

And it scares me

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Albatrossity2



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,11:49   

Actually, I'm surprised it was only three. Consider the audience that they are courting - Republican primary voters. At least here in Kansas, that group includes mostly right-wing authoritarians and affiliated wingnuts.

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improvius



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,13:39   

To be fair (and cynical), the responses might not be completely honest.  The question might as well have been phrased "Who would you rather piss off?  Raise your hand if you want to alienate intellectuals, or keep it lowered if you want to alienate fundamentalist Christians."  Either way, though, I'll take the answers at face value.  Pandering to ignorance is just as bad as (if not worse than) merely being ignorant.

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stevestory



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,14:09   

I'm a little surprised. I bet the fundies are pissed off.

   
phonon



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,14:25   

Quote (improvius @ May 04 2007,13:39)
To be fair (and cynical), the responses might not be completely honest.  The question might as well have been phrased "Who would you rather piss off?  Raise your hand if you want to alienate intellectuals, or keep it lowered if you want to alienate fundamentalist Christians."  Either way, though, I'll take the answers at face value.  Pandering to ignorance is just as bad as (if not worse than) merely being ignorant.

That's why the question was asked, IMO.

It reminds me of a question posed to Bush during the 2004 debates.

"Do you consider yourself to be an environmentalist?"

Perfect question for G-dub. There is no good answer for him.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,22:11   

We shouldn't be surprised in the slightest. I don't know about Huckabee, but Brownback's a walking Christian right cartoon and Tancredo's a complete frigging idiot who takes after Tom Delay.

It's amusing to watch these dipshits competing to out-wingnut each other, with half of them completely repudiating everything they've done or said for the last 20 years to do so.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: May 04 2007,23:27   

The only thing that surprises me is that only 3 raised their hands. Maybe most of the rest had never heard of evolution--yeah, that must be it. And excuse me, why didn't McCain put up his mitt? Fresh from his speech at the Disco Institute, and suddenly he doesn't not-believe in evo after saying "We should teach ID in schools"? Pour some syrup on the guy, he's waffling (again).  :p

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phonon



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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2007,14:21   

Over the past two years or so, John McCain has gone quite insane. The man is no longer in control of his mental faculties.

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Robert O'Brien



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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2007,20:16   

That don't make no never mind to me. I would like to know what each think about America's poor showing in mathematics, though.

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Kristine



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(Permalink) Posted: May 05 2007,20:58   

Or in geography. History... *Sigh*

I wonder how many of the candidates have published a white paper, at least?

I think that should be made an amendment to the Constitution.

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Wesley R. Elsberry



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(Permalink) Posted: May 06 2007,04:30   

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I bet the fundies are pissed off.


When would that not be a safe bet to make?

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Paul Flocken



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2007,19:23   

Quote (Kristine @ May 04 2007,23:27)
Pour some syrup on the guy, he's waffling (again).  :p

Nah. Just pour some gasoline over the hole bunch and touch off a match.  The CO2 generated by the bonfire would be alot less damaging to the biosphere than all the hot air we are going to be subjected to by this group and their counterpart democrats over the next eighteen months. :p


Note to the FBI:  I'm just joking.  See the smiley?

edit:  why are the smileys not working?

second edit: Thanx Arden.  I never saw smileys not work, so I never had to click that.

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Arden Chatfield



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2007,19:31   

Quote (Paul Flocken @ May 12 2007,19:23)
edit:  why are the smileys not working?

Click the button that says "do you wish to enable emoticons for this post?"

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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2007,19:59   

Quote (Wesley R. Elsberry @ May 06 2007,05:30)
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I bet the fundies are pissed off.


When would that not be a safe bet to make?

I'm listening to the podcast of that Victor Gold CATO thing I linked to on the Bathroom Wall. He just mentioned that starting in the 80's, the GOP started paying lip service to the fundies, but behind closed doors, even people like Reagan said, you know, we can't give these people anything substantial, they're theocrats. We just have to give them something symbolic and hope they don't notice what's going on.

Now that they're starting to notice, I bet they're in extra pissed off form these days.

   
Chris Hyland



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(Permalink) Posted: May 12 2007,23:13   

As a non American it looks like the Bush administration doesn't give a shit what the religious right thinks as long as they get their vote. Correct me if I'm wrong.

  
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(Permalink) Posted: May 13 2007,07:14   

Quote (Chris Hyland @ May 12 2007,23:13)
As a non American it looks like the Bush administration doesn't give a shit what the religious right thinks as long as they get their vote. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You're not wrong.  The Republicrats are using the fundies like a ten-dollar whore.

The fundies, of course, are so stupid that it took DECADES for them to figure it out . . . .


--edit--  It is ironic, though, that in the long run, this "pay lip service to the fundies so we can get their votes" strategy, is killing the Republicrat party.  With the respectibility and support that they did get from the Republicrats, the fundies have been able to capture nearly all of the Party machinery, and they now largely control everything from the setting of Republicrat party platforms to the flow of party campaign funding.  As a result, no Republicrat candidate has any chance of winning a primary election now unless he kisses fundie ass (like ALL of the Presidential candidates are now doing).

So the Repugs have forced themselves into an unsupportable position -- their candidates have to mouth fundie views to get the nomination, but the general public doesn't support the fundies or their views, so it's a kiss of death in the general elections.  Particularly now that the American public is far more familiar with the fundie agenda and its goals than they used to be.

There are now a few Republicrats who are attempting to kick out the fundies and take their own party back, but it's too late now for that -- the fundies control all the party machinery and most of the funding.

The right-wing nutters are in for some very tough times ahead . . . . .  .

And I say, "Woo hoo !!!!!"

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